At Portsmouth cathedral, bishop Egan ordained four priests in his cathedral for the Family of Mary Immaculate and St Francis using the extraordinary form Pontifical. These piests belnog to the diocesan group of Franciscans at Gosport and celebrate both the Ordinary and Extraordinary Forms of the Mass.
Meanwhile in Nottingham dioceses Fr Liam Carpenter was ordained. He celebrated his first Mass in the extraordinary form at the Dominican church of the Holy Cross in Leicester.
Well, the Latin Mass Society say it was in the Extraordinary Form although the lack of altar cards and presence of concelebrants is confusing. Nonetheless ad multos annos to all these new priests!
No ordinations to the priesthood in Hexham and Newcastle this year but now we have a bishop who is known to celebrate the Extraordinary Form we hope that great things lie ahead and that the EF Mass in the diocese will go from being `tolerated` (as was the case before) to embraced and celebrated as a normal part of Catholic life.
UPDATE 19.07.19 Having spoken to a priest who was present Fr Carpenter`s First Mass was in fact in the ordinary form.
UPDATE 19.07.19 Having spoken to a priest who was present Fr Carpenter`s First Mass was in fact in the ordinary form.
Please God the days of toleration are far behind us. (Paul@Ryhope)
ReplyDeleteDespite the fact that our new Bishop likes the EF, I doubt he can have much influence over the clergy who have been formed to think and reflect in a Modernist way, under the impression that it is simply a developing of genuine Catholicism. We have a long, long way to go before genuine Catholicism is tolerated, never mind values. It is a very said state we are in since the early 1900's when Pope St Pius X first tackled Modernism head-on. The Holy Ghost is certainly planting seeds, but they have to grow along with the tares for some while yet i suspect, since the College of cardinals seems replete with men who seek to follow society's secular changes rather than genuine development of Doctrine.
ReplyDeleteHi Fr Gary. I know of at least 3/4 including myself who have already written to Bishop Byrne regarding the EF in both Newcastle & the diocese at large. Whilst, naturally, he needs time to settle in it seems that he has taken note of the closed nature of St Michael's in Elswick & the impending disappearance of the Dominicans. Both churches have large living accommodation which could suit the ICKSP & FSSP & he is aware of the wish of Catholics to have an EF Mass presence in the city. I rather gather that the LMS also feels the need to have a presence in the city & have been in touch with me. It seems sad that a city such as Newcastle does not have an EF Mass when, during Jack Harvey's time, we had both Newcastle & Gateshead.
DeleteSad that you weren't able to attend Andrew's Missa Cantata at Thornley but we hope & pray that your health may improve soon. God Bless.
David, I think a greater priority than Newcastle would be to provide a Sunday EF Mass for those who live in the south of the diocese. Areas like Hartlepool, Darlington and Sunderland have no opportunity to attend. Apart from yourself, I`ve not heard of anyone asking for another Sunday Mass on Tyneside.
ReplyDeleteOf course Father but if one of the traditional Orders comes in they will need an area which can support them. A number of years ago the FSSP were offered Hartlepool but that was unsustainable. Perhaps one of the priests presently celebrating the EF might be sent south. Some priest might even volunteer!!!
DeleteIn fact several people have (to my personal knowledge) already written to the bishop & have received responses. I believe even the LMS are pushing for Newcastle.
DeleteThere is, of course, a regular EF Mass every Sunday at Thornley which is VERY well attended & draws from the south of the diocese.
DeleteI would hope as LMS chaplain for the north and celebrant of the Mass on Tyneside the LMS might ask my opinion as part of their push.
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