The life and times of the most recent parish priest of St Joseph`s and St Wilfrid`s, Gateshead who is also chaplain to the North of England for the Latin Mass Society.
Wednesday, 2 May 2018
Archbishop Sample on the Latin Mass and the young.
Thanks to the Catholic Herald for drawing attention to this interesting homily by archbishop Sample of Portland given at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington DC on April 28th. Very encouraging.
He is serving a very small minority of Catholics. The difficulty is that he thinks he is speaking for many more, and he is not. Speak appropriately, saith I.
That was not a homily. It was full of cliches, stereotypes, church politics and rather banal views about catholicism. He's been listening to and virtually taken lines verbatim from Burke, Schneider et al.
I do not like the way in which the document has been turned into an ideological symbol of everything that is apparently bad in the Church. Francis offers wonderful ideas and speaks to people's concerns. You wouldn't think he was pope from Sample's talk. Afraid he is a small group of like-minded people who speak to each other, not the world.
"Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.”
― Fulton J. Sheen
That applies even if such ideas come from a pope, or even if the majority of catholics are anti-traditional. What good will it do if you stand before God stating pope said it was okay? https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/but-the-pope-said-so-excuses-that-may-not-help-on-judgment-day
When you say great ideas, can you name them please? Allowing communion for those in “second” marriage? Not answering the dubia for year and a half? Discussing removing the priestly celibacy? Proposing there should be a consensus among German bishops for intercommunion with protestants, without their need for conversion to catholic faith? Calling traditionalists gnostics and neopelegians? Introducing lay deaconesses? Calling proselytism solemn nonsense? Stating there is no catholic God? No hell?
Idealogical battle? Can’t you see the trend by now? What do all thriving religious orders have in common?
Last comment from me. Oh dear, I am afraid you have demonstrated all the characteristics of Church critics that are a distraction from the wonderful message of mercy, of God's absolute love and many other truths Francis has spoken to the world. Evidence of growth and decline in religious communities is important but no indicator of the state of the Church which, if you would like a statistical measure of growth, is more likely to be a calculation of the number of people attending mass. That has always gone up and down in different countries. Can I suggest you stop bothering about periphewral matters? If you don't you will end up like Fr Z, who seems to think that lace albs, gold thread fiddlebacks and berettas are crucial signs of Chirst-like flowering amongst clergy (not the whole people of God, remember). Clericalism, fluff and show - all set aside by Francis. Listen to what he says and you will be inspired.
God’s Mercy is endless, but it requires repentance and amendment of sin. Don’t forget that God’s Mercy and Justice are inseparable.
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom", says the Proverbs 9:10
I am listening and I am indeed getting inspired. The more I listen to what is happening, the more I am running to Tradition. And I could not thank Francis enough on that. Fatima, La Sallete and Quito warned as about the present hour. Blessed Catherine Emmerich, Marie-Julie Jahenny, St. Francis of Assisi and even the doctors of the church wrote about it as well. Reading this prophecy for example (Works of the Seraphic Father, St. Francis of Assisi) and not seeing the uncanny chilling resemblance (even in the name) would be an understatement. https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2017/11/16/saint-francis-prophecy
There is no greater love than to want someone’s salvation no matter how difficult at first it may seem. “For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.” Mt 11,30
On the other hand, the biggest cruelty one could offer is approving the sin, as if that excuse would help before the God’s Judgment seat. I do hope and pray you find refuge in the Immaculate Heart of Mary which will, without a shadow of a doubt, show you the catholic way!
It is interesting that the one person who comments adversely about Archbishop Sample's sermon signs himself as anonymous, seemingly preferring not to reveal his or her identity. The great thing about Archbishop Sample is that he speaks very clearly and is obviously unashamed of what he says. Like the authors of the other, favourable, comments he does not hide behind anonimity.
It really is a great pity that there are people around who steadfastly refuse to accept the ample evidence that is all around them.
Yes, Anonymous is happy to spout but as soon as he/she is asked to answer simple questions on statements s/he has made, we get a "last comment from me" - needless to say, not one which answers a question. Typical modernist bilge.
Patricia Turnbull (not anonymous and happy to show my colours).
He is serving a very small minority of Catholics. The difficulty is that he thinks he is speaking for many more, and he is not. Speak appropriately, saith I.
ReplyDeleteAt the minute, but this part of the Church is producing vocations and is growing. Makes a change from endless meetings about how to manage decline.
ReplyDeleteThat was not a homily. It was full of cliches, stereotypes, church politics and rather banal views about catholicism. He's been listening to and virtually taken lines verbatim from Burke, Schneider et al.
DeleteSome of us like Burke, Schneider et al. I take it you don`t like Summorum Pontificum
DeleteI do not like the way in which the document has been turned into an ideological symbol of everything that is apparently bad in the Church. Francis offers wonderful ideas and speaks to people's concerns. You wouldn't think he was pope from Sample's talk. Afraid he is a small group of like-minded people who speak to each other, not the world.
ReplyDelete"Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.”
Delete― Fulton J. Sheen
That applies even if such ideas come from a pope, or even if the majority of catholics are anti-traditional. What good will it do if you stand before God stating pope said it was okay?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/but-the-pope-said-so-excuses-that-may-not-help-on-judgment-day
When you say great ideas, can you name them please? Allowing communion for those in “second” marriage? Not answering the dubia for year and a half? Discussing removing the priestly celibacy? Proposing there should be a consensus among German bishops for intercommunion with protestants, without their need for conversion to catholic faith? Calling traditionalists gnostics and neopelegians? Introducing lay deaconesses? Calling proselytism solemn nonsense? Stating there is no catholic God? No hell?
Idealogical battle? Can’t you see the trend by now? What do all thriving religious orders have in common?
https://onepeterfive.com/data-death-religious-orders/
Some might say 'perhaps it is a pity he isn't'!!
DeleteLast comment from me. Oh dear, I am afraid you have demonstrated all the characteristics of Church critics that are a distraction from the wonderful message of mercy, of God's absolute love and many other truths Francis has spoken to the world. Evidence of growth and decline in religious communities is important but no indicator of the state of the Church which, if you would like a statistical measure of growth, is more likely to be a calculation of the number of people attending mass. That has always gone up and down in different countries. Can I suggest you stop bothering about periphewral matters? If you don't you will end up like Fr Z, who seems to think that lace albs, gold thread fiddlebacks and berettas are crucial signs of Chirst-like flowering amongst clergy (not the whole people of God, remember). Clericalism, fluff and show - all set aside by Francis. Listen to what he says and you will be inspired.
ReplyDeleteGod’s Mercy is endless, but it requires repentance and amendment of sin. Don’t forget that God’s Mercy and Justice are inseparable.
Delete"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom", says the Proverbs 9:10
I am listening and I am indeed getting inspired. The more I listen to what is happening, the more I am running to Tradition. And I could not thank Francis enough on that. Fatima, La Sallete and Quito warned as about the present hour. Blessed Catherine Emmerich, Marie-Julie Jahenny, St. Francis of Assisi and even the doctors of the church wrote about it as well. Reading this prophecy for example (Works of the Seraphic Father, St. Francis of Assisi) and not seeing the uncanny chilling resemblance (even in the name) would be an understatement.
https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2017/11/16/saint-francis-prophecy
There is no greater love than to want someone’s salvation no matter how difficult at first it may seem. “For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.” Mt 11,30
On the other hand, the biggest cruelty one could offer is approving the sin, as if that excuse would help before the God’s Judgment seat. I do hope and pray you find refuge in the Immaculate Heart of Mary which will, without a shadow of a doubt, show you the catholic way!
It is interesting that the one person who comments adversely about Archbishop Sample's sermon signs himself as anonymous, seemingly preferring not to reveal his or her identity. The great thing about Archbishop Sample is that he speaks very clearly and is obviously unashamed of what he says. Like the authors of the other, favourable, comments he does not hide behind anonimity.
ReplyDeleteIt really is a great pity that there are people around who steadfastly refuse to accept the ample evidence that is all around them.
Yes, Anonymous is happy to spout but as soon as he/she is asked to answer simple questions on statements s/he has made, we get a "last comment from me" - needless to say, not one which answers a question. Typical modernist bilge.
ReplyDeletePatricia Turnbull (not anonymous and happy to show my colours).